Personally, I’m sceptical about the term “golden cross”. It is usually used for the cross of a damsire and sire. But it leaves out a huge chunk of a foal’s pedigree, which is actually where much of the “engine room” lies – in the maternal bottom line and often in damsires along that line as well.
In terms of Olympic glory, we may find our own breeding stars better by aiming for canny silvers and passionate bronzes rather than relying “crosses of gold”.
Over the years I’ve read/heard numerous references to “bred on the golden cross of..” and to be honest I am left under-whelmed.
Like the Olympics, you have to earn your golden medal. It is not there for the taking. And even when a horse performs well in one maiden race, the commentator’s observation that it is “bred on that golden cross of xx with xx mares” is hardly an insight to why the horse won. It has sometimes, especially in the North Island of New Zealand, started to sound like a marketing ploy.
The most dominant “golden crosses” are sire to damsire, or damsire to sire. Keep a wise mind when using the Golden Cross database such as the NZ Standardbred Breeders Assn one, or the USTA one. They are really interesting and sometimes useful, but mostly for horses that are well established and have enough of racing age to be statistically significant. As a direction for new sires (even those with oldest foals at 5 or 6 years) tread carefully as the gold nuggets are in the detail just as much as in the overall stats. You can only really see this if you drill down another level at least.
For example, what may be driving the success of a so-called “golden cross” could lie just as much in common factors on the maternal line or the quality of the mares overall (e.g “double copy” mares), not just her own sire.
And hugely influential historical “golden crosses” like Artsplace x Western Hanover may often be more to do with availability and numbers of quality mares to a very well performed sire. Same with the so-called golden cross of In The Pocket mares with Bettor’s Delight in New Zealand – he has had over 200 of them. Because In The Pocket was one of our most expensive sires, ipso facto he got many of the well bred or well performed mares, more-so than the normal population. Having stepped up to that level, breeders then wanted their good mares to go to one of the best Northern Hemisphere sires available, in Bettor’s Delight. As an outcross, it was a great match. However whether there is anything more intrinsic or deep in that “golden cross” I am not sure.
In one way, I am agreeing with that old adage “bred the best to the best”. I’m not saying that is all you need to do (no way!), but it sure makes life easier for a new sire if he gets good or proven mares, and many of them. The volume of good mares ensures that a higher proportion of them will “click” if there is any “click” to be had. (Which is of course why big studs in North America have traditionally built up top broodmare bands to give their new boys a chance to survive “Round One” of their career as a sire.)
For a really nice and well-bred sire who is not so commercial, the road is hard and uneven. And the numbers are much lower so your chances of meeting the right girl with the right attributes to make a good match are much, much lower.
A “golden cross” should be viewed as much wider and deeper than just the sire/damsire cross. And even then, you are not likely to find any clear answers, because:
- statistically often there are not enough progeny to make valid assertions (at least not until it is obvious if a sire is going to succeed regardless)
- so many other factors intervene in terms of breeding AND racing success, such as conformation, temperament, how a horse is brought up and trained, injury and accidents, the situation of the owner financially, the standard of the racing environment the horse is in.
For me, “golden crosses” is more a pump up than real oxygen.
hi bee, my golden crosses are , adios x tar heel mares, tyler.b x race time mares, albatross x bret hanover mares, in the pocket x 2 nd dam a tar heel sire, vance hanover x in the pocket mare, grinfromeartoear x jate lobell mare, and somebeachsomewhere x bettors delight mares,chandon x windshield wiper mares,and there are the new cross love you x sundon mares, that is not a stipulation that is always followed but assesed,
I have a couple questions for you regarding a mare I’m looking to buy to breed to the trotter GOOGOO GAAGAA. It’s and interesting mating and want your thoughts on it. Thank you for your time
Sure. Will contact you direct.
Agree mostly marketing which comes unstuck when you look more closely at the details as discussed on a previous blog. If you believe in pedigree building through combining siblings, near siblings or genetic equivalent of siblings in the “engine room”then there are some that I do believe have genuine merit. But to get that stand out performer imo it takes more then just the “golden cross” sire over dam sire with further reinforcements in the other half of the dams pedigree needed and/or the dam being from a family with a history of producing superior performers.
Agree Dot, although sometimes the combinations that work are not “same as” but rather “different but complementary” and those crosses are just as important in driving a maternal line forward. That is how the concept of golden cross can work on the maternal line but not simply as sire x damsire. It can be certain individuals and families that cross well, and best cross in the “engine room” than in the “boardroom”.
Agree but that subtlety has usually been lost on those in the business of marketing and indeed amongst many breeders since the advent of commercial yearling sales. Doubt that many buyers, particularly the newer generation have done sufficient homework either to appreciate it.
Yes probably only a tiny percentage of buyers research in any depth on breeding/pedigree, although many will get to know families and come back for more if things work. Most will be influenced much more by the sire and damsire than the mare because, as the studs know and hence the golden cross promotions, those are names that more potential buyers will be aware of, and more trainers will have experience of. So it is understandable how the unsubtle golden cross marketing has come about. But canny breeders can develop a family’s or a mare’s reputation by producing good progeny, regularly (or at least a reasonable hit rate) by going to sires that give her a better chance of success.