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Crosses with Bettor’s Delight mares – Dot continues the sharing on this subject

Posted in Standardbred breeding, tagged , on December 10, 2015| 4 Comments »

Hi everyone, I am still working on a few blogs but the day job, spring jobs after work and a “mobile broadband” that behaves like dial-up are conspiring against timely delivery. So thankfully Dot Schmidt from Australia has come to my rescue with further observations on the interesting discussion we’ve had about Bettor’s Delight as a future damsire, which was originally kicked off by David Sinclair:

I think you’ll find and we will continue to find that Somebeachsomewhere (SBSW) will hold pride of place over Bettor’s Delight (BD) mares. Of course it’s easy enough to nominate a leading sire, but BDs pedigree, being a Cam Fella grandson, with a dam by an Abercrombie/Most Happy Fella horse (MHF), second dam by Albatross is well suited to SBSW. SBSWs sire Mach Three’s dam is Abercrombie over MHF over Bret Hanover, and SBSW second dam is by Cam Fella who is MHF over Bret Hanover.

Only a small sample (9) still in the U.S. so more needed to validate but 89% $50k, 1:55 winners, and 67% 100k winners.

Downunder I can only find 4 live foals older then current 2yos and one of those is (Our) Waikiki Beach $510k, 153:7. Of course it’s not all about being out of a Bettor’s Delight mare; his second dam is by Albert Albert, a cross with Bettor’s Delight that enjoys plenty of success and he is from a female family that has produced stars such as Chandon and Salinger in the past.

Although not in the class of SBSW and unproven as a sire as yet Sir Lincoln with his very similar pedigree and presumably good access in NZ wouldn’t surprise if he succeeded with BD mares which for many people would be a much more affordable option to breed or buy. (Bee’s comment: 5 yearlings to date on the Sir Lincoln x Bettor’s Delight cross, you can check this out on the HRNZ website, search on Sir Lincoln and filter his progeny on damsires).

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Crosses with Bettor’s Delight continued

Posted in Standardbred breeding, tagged on November 25, 2015| Leave a Comment »

This discussion started with David’s thoughts based on mainly Australian statistics, then others including some NZ statistics I copied in. Finally here’s the link to the USTA statistics (of course as Dot says they are not an “apples with apples” comparison, and there will be some double ups like Texican N for the In The Pocket cross, but interesting nevertheless). I see that BG’s Bunny doesn’t show up at all in the USTA stats for “crosses of gold” with Bettor’s Delight, which is intriguing.

Perhaps we can make “calls” about higher percentage crosses with BD as a sire now, because we have many years of high numbers to look back on, giving these statistics some validity.

What is harder is to predict what will cross well with Bettor’s Delight as a damsire because, as David Sinclair pointed out, that is really where he is most likely to leave a long term inheritance.

So in our statistics – be they Australian, NZ or North American, the eyes will be out for what patterns might be showing up in that area. Of course relatively small numbers of BD mares will have had foals of racing age, but I am still quite surprised at the few times he is showing up as a damsire in many of the sires we know. With Art Major and American Ideal there are some solid percentages but nothing jumping out of the box yet.

I’m also aware that location of a sire and his mares can make a big difference to what get to go with what in America, whereas in New Zealand it is like one big state, all in.

I’ve blogged before on this topic and kept an eye out for BD as a damsire with yearlings coming through the sales. But haven’t looked at the stats recently.

If anyone wants to dig deeper on the mare/family matches so far with BD as a damsire in all those countries, go for it and I am happy to post up your thoughts or leave a comment on this blog.

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